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Saffron TerrorThe term “Hindu Terror” has been around for quite sometime now on news channels, media reports, newspapers etc. I’m writing this post following yesterday when the Indian Home Minister, Mr. P. Chidambaram publicly used the term “Saffron Terror”. It was sort of making the term “official” coming from a professional like him on a public platform. Being in a Hindu-dominated country this has already raised many eyebrows… or has it? Well here are some of my reflections on this issue:

  • Why did the Home Minister use this term: Isn’t he scared that this may cause disturbance among the Hindu citizens of the country and the UPA may lose the Hindu vote? Now the BJP says that the UPA is politicizing this issue only for targeting the BJP and the RSS and thus unnecessarily insulting the holy “saffron” colour. Let’s assume that UPA is actually politicizing this! Do you think the HM, as eminent and experienced as he is, will be so dumb to do such a thing? Isn’t the Hindu voter more valuable to the UPA than pointing fingers at BJP and the RSS?
  • chidambaramHow good or bad is the HM’s bold move: I admire and appreciate the boldness of the Home Minister for coming out in public and finally terming this ‘menace’ as it ‘can’ be called. All the public has anyways seen this issue with the tern “Hindu Terror” for quite sometime now, and NO-ONE had an objection to that! But when someone from the Government says it, should that be a big problem?
  • National Awareness: I also admire the UPA government for the courage of going ahead and bringing this issue out in the public because it is a menace! This actually requires attention! The UPA government in its past 5 years had risked its chair twice centering around the Nuclear Deal and even recently during the potential Adjournment Motion in Parliament. I give it to the HM for stating the truth than just bothering about how the Hindu voter would respond.
  • Are Hindus actually offended: I don’t think so! Even since the term “Hindu Terror” had been used, there were no media reports anywhere about the people’s hatred against the term and not even so for yesterday’s HM remarks. However, from interacting with my Hindu neighbours and friends, the average Hindu is sad that these certain elements are bringing a bad name to the beauty of Hinduism that glorifies a remarkable tradition since ages! I’m so proud of all my Hindu brothers that they don’t give a shit to these “in-house” terrorists and strongly consider them irreligious. Same goes to all the Muslims all over the world for completely disregarding filthy groups like the LeT, JuD, Taliban etc. as elements that can never be part of Islam, even though those groups have used the term “Jehad” by themselves.
  • So then what is the problem: The Government is ok to use the term. The people are ok to use the term. Then who has the problem then? As of now, it’s the BJP. They are accusing the UPA for politicizing this issue and bringing a bad name to the Hindus of this country. But I’ve given an insight on this in my first point above. Is thePramod_Muthalik BJP guilty that they are forced to making these comments? I think so… very much! Take the members of the RSS for example, or Bajrang Dal or Pramod Muthalik and his goons, working under the title of “Sri Ram” Sena. If the BJP is REALLY concerned of Hindu emotions, then they should go against people like these and the misuse of Lord Ram’s name in such petty groups! The BJP being in the Hindutva soup that they always are engrossed in, I think it’s the BJP that needs to worry about the Hindu voter, and that’s why THEY are politicizing this issue against the UPA than facing the reality of the situation.
  • BJP the real terror: In a BJP dominated state like Karnataka, my city of Mangalore, for the first time in its history saw communal violence consecutively for the past three years. All these times it was either the “saffron people” against the Christians or the “saffron people” against the Muslims causing violence in the name of Lord Ram and Indian Culture! What was and what IS the BJP doing then and NOW???

Experts say that post Independence Indian Governments have ignored or have “taken it lightly” when it came to these rising terror groups for which we’re paying the price today! We have to compliment the Home Minister that he has taken this bold step to have taken a start to put an end to the emerging “Saffron Terror”. I appeal to all Indians of any religion to look at terror as “Terror” whether its Saffron, White or Green.

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  1. Deepak says:

    Bl**dy Congress, did it ever had any policy? Maulana Chidambaram warns against ‘saffron terror’ !!! What this dead man has to say when his colleague Mr Krishna kept his mouth shut during a press conference with Paki home minister Qureshi OR what this jerk has to say about increasing Naxal attacks every day OR what he has to say about current situation in Jammu & Kashmir? How long are they planning to keep terrorists like Ajmal Kasab, Abu Salem or Afjal Gugu as their guests? Congress government & its politicians are complete waste, just trying to divert the attention from the real issues.

    • mariouana says:

      well i agree with ur point on Congress keeping quiet on many issues. But im still glad they dod not continue that habit and spoke out, even though they know they will get into trouble. And S. M. Krishna kept up his dignity by not speaking against the Pak Foreign Min in public… we cant bring ourselves down to that minister’s level…

  2. Deepak says:

    If this old dead man got so much to say about Saffron then why is he keeping his stinking mouth shut on the real issues, naxal, terrorism in J&K, decreasing number of Sikhs in J&K or on Mr Chidambaamr’s daughter’s husbands like Ajmal, Abu Salem or Afjal guru etc? Looks like this congress government itself a group full of terrorists who are desperate to destroy this country. On the one hand Mr Chiddu is now scared of saffron & on the other hand Mr Krishna got scared of Mr Quereshi.

  3. Deepak says:

    Bl**dy Congress, did it ever had any policy? Maulana Chidambaram warns against ‘saffron terror’ !!! What this dead man has to say when his colleague Mr Krishna kept his mouth shut during a press conference with Paki home minister Qureshi OR what this jerk has to say about increasing Naxal attacks every day OR what he has to say about current situation in Jammu & Kashmir? How long are they planning to keep terrorists like Ajmal Kasab, Abu Salem or Afjal Gugu as their guests? Congress government & its politicians are complete waste, just trying to divert the attention from the real issues.

    If this old dead man got so much to say about Saffron then why is he keeping his stinking mouth shut on the real issues, naxal, terrorism in J&K, decreasing number of Sikhs in J&K or on Mr Chidambaamr’s daughter’s husbands like Ajmal, Abu Salem or Afjal guru etc? Looks like this congress government itself a group full of terrorists who are desperate to destroy this country. On the one hand Mr Chiddu is now scared of saffron & on the other hand Mr Krishna got scared of Mr Quereshi.

    If anyone is still scared of saffron terrorism, then why not you plz leave India…leave it asap. First, look at Kasab, Salem & Afjal guru first bl**dy Islamic extremists… probably such guys will find Pakistan & Afganistan a better asylum OR may also like to join with Talibans etc.

  4. Deepak says:

    seems you are as scared of saffron terrorism as Mr Chiddu, then why not you plz leave India…leave it asap & go to some Islamic extremist country… probably you will find Pakistan & Afganistan a better asylum. Its funny whn you say Mr Krishna kept silence bcoz of his dignity. I am in doubt if Mr Krishna really understands what does dignity mean.

    Take some time out & visit few cities in UP or Bihar or even in Jamia Nagar in Delhi & see how Islamic extremist are being grown under the name of politics. but no politician or political party can speak against them bcoz they fear of loosing vote bank.

    Mr Chiddu cant do anything much to get rid of real issue such as J&K issue, Naxal issue so I can understand that he is left with nothing to speak abt but only Saffron color, that too probably bcoz Hindus or Hindustan are alwys a soft target.

    It should be a celebration time for Mr Chiddu, all Islamic extremist or probably for you as well….finally India about to doomed.

    • mariouana says:

      i don’t think you are getting any thing right! terrorism is terrorism whether its saffron, white or green! i admire the courage “Mr. Chiddu” has to come out in the open and say that… if BJP was in power they would shelter these “saffron terrorists”.
      If you see the facts, in the Samjauta, Malegoan blasts or even others, the obvious “Islamist” groups were blamed first… but then they found concrete proof that it was the work of “saffron terrorits”.
      the islamist terrorists are generally not “indians” they are either from pakistan or afghanistan. but its sad to see true Indians under the Hindu banner bringing a bad name to the country.
      all said, i request you, not to classify them as islamic terrorits or saffron terrorits… terrorism is terrorism whether its saffron, white or green!

  5. Deepak says:

    It was, It is & It will remain always islamic terrorism, Ask those who died in WTC NY or those who died in London undergrounds. The incidents you have mentioned above were only a few reactions to the continuous attacks on India by Islamic terrorist groups. You mentioned samjautha but you forget to mention that it was an initiative by Mr Atal Bihari Bajpayee. Probably you forgot what he found in result… a KARGIL. Bloody Islamic terrorist have alwys done it to India, Mugal, Tuglaks, too many changez Khans blah blah blah…

    Please do not forget history whn you try to speak about facts.

    I can understand you would not like to hear anything bad about Islamic terrorist bcoz you got a fear of loosing muslim posts on your website, jst like Mr Chiddu who is too scared of loosing muslim votes.

    Well done mate, you designed a great website & I wish you will definitely get a large number of muslims posts. There are thousands of Kasab, Salem, Daood, & Afjals on the way….

    Good Luck !!!

    • mariouana says:

      first of all im catholic and all posts are written by me. i dont know what you mean by muslim posts and hindu posts. if you are an INdian, your comments disgust me.
      im leaving your comments here for others to read so that they know that such people also exist.

      and if you still dint get it, I am not ignoring the attacks by the Islamist terror groups. In this post I’m talking about the politics over saffron terror! I dont think you will still understand it, by all ur comments above… but thats my last attempt.

  6. Deepak says:

    Well, that’s a surprise. I am not against you my friend. I am against those people who are destroying my country & those who are in power but can’t do anything rather thn talking a shit. As you said,you are catholic so probably you won’t understand the meaning of Saffron – Its a color in our national flag, its an ancient divine color of prosperity, dignity of Hinduism & Sikhism. This color has a wide descriptions in various Hindu Vedas, Granthas. Look at a turban of a Sikh in any Gurudwara…you will understand why my blood get boiled when people do or talk anything bad about our country, our countrymen or the things which truly represent it.

    • mariouana says:

      agreed. this is my country too… saffron may not be holy to me, but its a colour of pride from my national flag too… thats why i dont like these hooligans who are ruining the ‘saffron’ sanctity nationally and religiously too…
      terming them as terrorists will make the people turn away from them and what they preach. THAT was a bold step taken by the HM even though he knew that there will be a lot of criticism against him. THAT is what i admire.
      the islamist terror is a totally different issue. this post was about the “saffron terror” and the politics surrounding that.

  7. Deepak says:

    You are too far from the ground realities. Mr Chiddu is nothing but just a dead man walking & same his other colleagues in this government. He is just trying to divert the people attention from too many ongoing issues around at the moment.

    Also, I assure you that you won’t face or experience any saffron terror so you can keep praising Mr Chiddu as long as he’s talking a shit. But beware of Islamic terrorism, they may blast anywhere so you need to keep yourself safe & dont expect Mr Chiddu to help you whn you are in any trouble. I am sure he will never come ahead to help or speak against Islamic terrorism which is much much bigger problem thn saffron but he cant take a risk of speaking on this topic. can he?

    Regards,
    Deepak
    +44-7709109458
    United Kingdom.

    • Ravan Jr. says:

      Terrorism is terrorism,whether its Saffron,White,Green or Red!!….. as for these godddamn terrorist who are responsible for the Chaos in the country, i dont think they are Hindus,Muslims,Christians,Sikhs,Buddhists,Jains etc….. They just have one religion..TERROR! These are the mentally weak and unstable groups of people who are easily recruited into these groups by the onnes who are already in it !!
      I think its easier to blame the Government than do something about it…. A person in that position has a lot to think about before taking any decision(im not talkin about votes here). Naxals are another bunch of mislead people who have forgotten the reason for their existence. So,by giving them a chance to surrender is obviously the right thing to do.Having someones blood in your hand is a feeling of guilt that doesnt go away very easily.I do believe in God, i am totally against the terrorists.These people who are creating panic and chaos in the name of God and Jehad, i dont think they believe in God at all..bcoz if they are as religious as they say they,then they would value the life of people instead of taking it or creating riots and damaging property and causing economic loss. In Karnataka,i think there was peace in the state as long as Congress was in power.As soon as BJP took over, I have witnessed so many riots and Bandhs and of course The Rise of Ram Sena (which i believe are demons army rather than Lord Ram’s).SO i don’t need to see a lot of History to know this.Mughals,Tughlaq etc, invaded,that’s all past,why screw up the PEACE in our Present in the name of PAST!! This brings to mind the Ayodhya issue… In the past,the emperors had demolished a temple and built a mosque there.BAck then there was Imperialism,not Democracy,What was the need to bring it up and cause riots in 1992 (and we are still talking about it). Which of course led to 1993 blasts.Its going to lead to a chain reaction unless someone takes a first step towards peace!!!! Why don’t these fanatics see that the next generation needs to see a better future.Haven’t we learnt from our mistakes yet???????????? How many more lives to lose before we learn it!!?!!
      WHEN ARE PEOPLE GONNA UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE BEFORE BEING HINDU,MUSLIM,CHRISTIAN ETC, THEY ARE HUMANS!!! and HUMANITY IS WHAT EVERYONES FORGETTING HERE!!!! TIME TO WAKE UP!!

  8. vinay s says:

    Terrorism of any kind whether its masterminded by muslims, hindus or sikhs should never be linked with the religion but the reality is political parties use it to their convenience. BJP uses Islam terrorism to gain votes and am not surprised that Cong now wants to use Saffron terror. Mr. Chidambaram is shrewd enough to use the word saffron instead of Hindu terror. To be frank i don’t think you can call it a bold move but it is definitely a wise political move.

    • Bhadresh says:

      I seriously didnt understand why is the UPA bringing in colour for terrorism? Just because RSS,Ram Sena wore a “saffron” shawls or clothes doesn’t mean
      you need to term this as “Saffron terrorism”.Why isn’t the government calling the terror attacks by the LET,Taliban etc. as “Beard terrorism”,everyone in their group has a long beard?Don’t you think, tomorrow anyone wearing a saffron colour dress shall be suspected as people working for those groups?Isn’t it sending out a wrong message to people?tell me,How many of them will boldly go and buy a saffron dress after this,since they liked the design of the dress?I definitely think It was not wise enough of Chidambaram to publicly use the term “saffron terrorism”. All these things by chidambaram is just for political gains.After all most of the Indians do vote,by looking at which political party support their religion,caste etc. rather than looking at how the government is working for the welfare of this nation.

  9. Deepak says:

    @Ravan Jr.

    Everyone knows terrorism is bad for humanity but so far world has only seen Muslim/Islamic terrorism…open your eyes & looks at WTC NY, London blast, Taj hotel, so many blast in New Delhi so far..u cant keep counting them. You wrote abt riots in BJP government…probably you were pointing to Godhra but do you really knw the cause behind those riots? It was a reaction of a burnt train where too many hindus were killed by nasty islamic extremist. & if you still got any doubt then you can keep on reading my previous posts again & again. I have already given answer to all your existing & non-existing questions.

    I can imagine that you will never understand my words bcoz your name itself suggest that you are Ravan Jr. I am a follower of Ram, saffron, Indian-ism, humanity, peace, & progress & development.

    If you are still scared of saffron, Leave my country ASAP & go to Pakistan or Afganistan. Your Talibani friends are awaiting you.

    • Ravan Jr. says:

      As far as my name is concerned , i don’t need to justify it to anyone.I know about WTC, i know about Taj etc. The riots im talking about,i dont need to look as far as Godhra, i can see whats happening in my own state. Ever since BJP has come into power,Bandhs and riots have become so frequent in the state. And the people who cause them in the name of Culture,i dont think these people need to tell anyone about culture. I have seen these Fanatics up close and all i’ve seen is they are a jobless bunch of people who plan out these stuff and execute it.These so called soldiers of Lord Ram would seriously be making Lord Ram bow his head in shame. I mean, Lord Ram is a hero everyone can look up to, whereas these fanatics are spoiling his name by spreading chaos in Ram’s name. Final result,the people who have a job to do,the shops and as a result the nations economy is what suffers. Maybe what these people need to do is go to school where they learn a something called manners,i mean,really seriously no sane man, would beat up women,drag them on the ground and kick them(WHATEVER THE REASON) Im sure Lord Ram would be ashamed because of these people if he ever saw what was done by people who call themselves his soldiers !!
      As far as what you say about yourself ,i.e follower of Ram, saffron, Indian-ism, humanity, peace, & progress & development, I think its just plain Bull!!

      A follower of Ram would see the difference in Terrorism and Humanity, and would instead of having a mentality such as yours, they would want peace no matter what the Past issues are.Even Ram forgave Ravan in the end.So if you believe that you are a follower of Ram,ummmm WAKE UP!!!

      Saffron ,A colour, a spice ,etc. i dont know how can u follow SAFFRON!!
      Your idea of Indian-ism, Really grateful to God that only a small bunch of people have your Idea of Indian-ism!!! We would have been having World War 6 or 7 if everyone had a mindset such as yours!!

      Humanity , On earth, Humanity is what distinguishes Humans from other creatures. Humanity is what makes people respect human life.ummm,the fanatic bunch with your kinda thinking is definitely lacking it,unless of course you’re an extra terrestrial,and on your planet Humanity is as you define it!!! Woah, Grateful to god that im on earth!!

      Peace, something that the country is missing ever since Sene and its kind has come into existence!!!( what more can u expect in a time where riots can be rented)

      Progress and Development, i’ll surely agree with you, if we are progressing in the negative axis!!India had better culture and a better lifestyle during the times of Ashoka,Akbar,etc.People were more broad minded and more Human back then!!! And these fanatics speak about CULTURE!!! If the country needs to progress,what we need is Education.These fanatics need to be educated….Maybe they first need to go to school and learn basic manners!!! If they can’t do anything good,let them atleast leave the common people alone!! im sure what 98% of the population would want is peace and not some crap from Sene or its kind…so its time they actually shut up!!

      And for your last statement,im not afraid of saffron. I would really like to see MY country INDIA become a better place to live in, so i have no intention of leaving it anytime.And you telling me to leave my country and go to Pakistan and Afghanistan and talibani frnz exactly shows your mindset and proves that you have your head way up your backside!!! And we need a little less of such thrash!! So please,this is a kind request ,(I know Freedom of expression etc) If theres a debatable topic,lets debate but keep it clean!! Lets not forget,Before being Hindus,Muslims,CHristians,Indians,Pakistanis,Afghanis, etc, theres something more important HUMANITY,which is teh need of the hour!!

  10. Deepak says:

    @ Vinay
    &
    @ Bhadresh

    Thanks my friends. I really appreciate your views.

  11. Deepak says:

    @Ravan Jr.

    I dont know which state you live in my friend but BJP governed states are much better then other’s. Look at Gujrat…one of the best/developed state of India. Bandhs you are talking about are a voice against real issues – scam in commonwealth games, J&K, Naxal, Inflation, Farmer’s land acquisition scandal in UP, dead foreign policy (probably you must have already seen how did Mr PCs colleague Mr Krishna performed during his recent visit to Pak) & list is endless.

    Also, I am not against Muslims or any other religion. I got 100s of friend who belongs to different countries, culture or different religions. What I understand that statement such as Mr PC’s is alwys to divert attention from the real issues around & I feel Mr PC has actually been quite successful by keeping people involved in unnecessary debate, probably the same way as terrorists did while thy were killing people in Hotel Taj. 2-days non-stop live telecast took all the attention not only in India but in entire world.

    I can also assure that you will never face or experience any saffron terror so you can keep praising Mr Chiddu as long as he’s talking a shit. But beware of Islamic terrorism, they may blast anywhere near you & I am sure he will never come ahead to help or speak against Islamic terrorism which is a much much bigger problem thn saffron but he never spoke & cant take a risk of speaking on this topic. can he?

    Regards,
    Deepak
    +44-7709109458
    United Kingdom.

    • Ravan Jr. says:

      GUjrat is one of the highly developed states ,i agree.The CM of Gujrat gets work done, I agree with that too.BUt if theres one thing I really don’t like about the GUjrat CM is the way he introduces communal divide there! As for the Bandhs that i mentioned earlier, these Bandhs were absolutely unnecessary,It had nothing to do with Commonwealth or any relevant issues that required attention. It was again only because of clash between the Fanatics of every religion. Clash between Hindus n Muslims and Hindus n Christians. and both the times it was because of unmindful acts of the Sene! I agree there was a issue regarding conversion etc. but then those responsible should have been taken care of,instead the sene goes and ransacks every church in the city,Churches which had nothing to ado with the conversions! As for the Hindu Muslim clashes, if there is some attack someplace in the city,and if the attacker is a Hindu and the person attacked is Muslim or the other way round, even if it was some personal matter betwee the two people, it turns into communal riots…The only reason is because there are fanatics in every religion.and these are the people that should be taken care of,instead of blaming an entire religion or community!

  12. Deepak says:

    @ Ravan Jr.

    In response to your statemenet “Saffron ,A colour, a spice ,etc. i dont know how can u follow SAFFRON!!”

    Saffron – Its a color in our national flag, its an ancient divine color of prosperity, dignity of Hinduism & Sikhism. This color has a wide descriptions in various Hindu Vedas, Granthas. Look at a turban of a Sikh in any Gurudwara…you will understand why my blood get boiled when people do or talk anything bad about our country, our countrymen or things which truly represent it.

  13. Deepak says:

    @ Ravan Jr.

    Why do Hindu, Sikhs & Christians not blame each other ???….Bcoz they are well integrated, they posses a progressive thinking & they are faithful to this country but this doesn’t apply to entire Muslim community. Take a visit to any of the town in UP or Bihar, you willl find people clapping for Pakistan. You raise a issue of population control with Muslim community & hear the voices against. How many of them go to booth to get a polio drop to their kids? It was a Hindu accepted wisdom which allowed Muslims to let stay in this country after partition but have you ever imagined current condition of Hindus in Pakistan?

    You have written or pointed too much towards BJP, Shiv Sena or Bajrang Dal or Vishv Hindu Parishad or Ram Sena etc. Mr PC or people like you can call them whatever you like, you can call them terrorists or blah blah etc but let me tell you they are just like an Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware/Anti-Melaware programs – helping in a process to keep the society clean & unaffected. Occasional “Trojans” are few exceptions but we will find the solutions for them too. After all, India got a bunch of IT professionals.

  14. Ravan Jr. says:

    Well, i must say they are sort of an anti spyware,anti virus etc, but they are liek a software which screws up your own system!! More than keeping society clean, they are just screwin it up by their mindless violence!! I dont think the entire muslim communtiy can be blamed for the handiwork of a few… there are such “weeds”in every religion… so you can’t just blame the entire religion or community!

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